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49743. Ken Walsh                 Re: Amiga in Germany the official numbers!
49744. jeremy spring             Re: AFB Adverts - Whats the cost/subber?
49745. Matthew O'Neill           Re: intuition on macs?
49746. Matthew O'Neill           Re: Not much going on on my birthday...
49747. Matthew O'Neill           Re: intuition on macs?
49748. Matthew O'Neill           Re: Am I missing the point ?
49749. Matthew O'Neill           Re: BT
49750. Matthew O'Neill           Re: Fillums (was: More A1200 Qs)
49751. Matthew O'Neill           Re: Matt's Clinic & WOA2000 was  TweakWB, WBCtrl,
49752. Matthew O'Neill           Re: Matt's Clinic & WOA2000 was  TweakWB, WBCtrl,
49753. Matthew O'Neill           Re: Matt's Clinic & WOA2000 was  TweakWB, WBCtrl,
49754. Colin Buchanan            MMULib Queries
49755. Will                      Re: Am I missing the point ?
49756. Sandy Brownlee            Re: Mag Size
49757. Sandy Brownlee            Re: What's on AFCD51?
49758. Will                      Re: BT
49759. Alex Furmanski            Re: Fillums (was: More A1200 Qs)
49760. Jim Spratt                BTInternet e-mail address
49761. Neil Bothwick             Re: TurboStart/TurboSpool arguing with each other
49762. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: Genesis and BTInternet
49763. Nick Darley-Jones         Re: TweakWB, WBCtrl, FBlit
49764. Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?=    Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail
49765. Andy Mills                Re: BT Internet
49766. Andy Mills                Re: hosts
49767. Andy Mills                Re: hosts
49768. Andy Mills                Re: Buster
49769. Vincenzo Morra            NEWS
49770. Nick Darley-Jones         Re: amiga user group
49771. Bert Volders              Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail
49772. Stephen Webber            Re: Fusion
49773. Oliver Masters            Re: Matt's Clinic & WOA2000 was  TweakWB, WBCtrl,
49774. Bill Griffin              Help with mFTP
49775. Arran Smalley             Re: intuition on macs?
49776. Steven Holmes             Going VERY cheap, please take off our hands!
49777. Steven Holmes             Re: Going VERY cheap, please take off our hands!
49778. Bruce Ruff                Re: Genesis and BTInternet
49779. Christopher Ross-Gill     Re: What's on AFCD51?
49780. Christopher Ross-Gill     Re: TinTin (Was: Amiga website)
49781. Oliver Masters            Re: amiga user group
49782. Arran Smalley             Re: Fillums (was: More A1200 Qs)
49783. roger buckley             Re: Matt's Clinic & WOA2000 was  TweakWB, WBCtrl,
49784. Gerald Mellor             Re: Am I missing the point ?
49785. Gerald Mellor             Re: Am I missing the point ?
49786. Nick Darley-Jones         Re: amiga user group
49787. Anthony E. Bodo           Re: USB info?
49788. Matthew O'Neill           Re: TurboStart/TurboSpool arguing with each other
49789. Matthew O'Neill           ioblix
49790. Matthew O'Neill           Re: What's on AFCD51?
49791. Matthew O'Neill           Adding a ppc and bvision
49792. Robert Johnston           Re: Doing the Business on the Amiga
49793. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: TurboStart/TurboSpool arguing with each other
49794. Stephen                   Organiser
49795. Paul Laycock              Re: Adding a ppc and bvision
49796. Robert Johnston           Re: Matt's Clinic & WOA2000 was  TweakWB, WBCtrl,
49797. Nick Lamburn              Re: Fusion
49798. Nick Lamburn              Re: What's on AFCD51?
49799. Robert Johnston           Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail
49800. Sealey, M.                Re: TweakWB, WBCtrl, FBlit
49801. [e-mail]    AmigaAMP crossfading
49802. Nick Lamburn              Re: intuition on macs?
49803. Sealey, M.                Re: intuition on macs?
49804. Nick Lamburn              Re: intuition on macs?
49805. eGroups.com Poll Results  Voting Results: Floppy Disks
49806. eGroups.com Poll Results  Voting Results: Another Floppy Drive Poll, Mk. II
49807. [e-mail] POLL: Free UK Internet
49808. Samuel Byford             Freedom!  (Poll)
49809. Sealey, M.                Re: POLL: Free UK Internet
49810. Robert Johnston           Re: POLL: Free UK Internet
49811. Tudor Davies              Re: POLL: Free UK Internet
49812. Neil Bothwick             Re: Several JavaScript questions
49813. Ben Vost                  Re: Am I missing the point ?
49814. Ben Vost                  Re: HTML tools
49815. George Davis              PowerUp emulation trouble -solved
49816. Ben Vost                  Re: AFB Adverts - Whats the cost/subber?
49817. Matthew O'Neill           Re: AFB Adverts ( Matt's Clinic & WOA2000 was  Tw
49818. Matthew O'Neill           tag
49819. Matthew O'Neill           type of mag?
49820. Nick Lamburn              Re: AFB Adverts - Whats the cost/subber?
49821. Sealey, M.                Re: type of mag?
49822. Ben Vost                  Re: tag
49823. Sealey, M.                Re: AFB Adverts - Whats the cost/subber?
49824. Nick Lamburn              Re: type of mag?
49825. Ben Vost                  Re: AFB Adverts - Whats the cost/subber?
49826. Robert Johnston           Re: type of mag?
49827. Nick Lamburn              Re: AFB Adverts - Whats the cost/subber?
49828. Sealey, M.                Re: AFB Adverts - Whats the cost/subber?
49829. Nick Lamburn              Re: AFB Adverts - Whats the cost/subber?
49830. David McMinn              Re: type of mag?
49831. Ben Vost                  Re: AFB Adverts - Whats the cost/subber?
49832. Nick Lamburn              Re: type of mag?
49833. Nick Lamburn              Re: AFB Adverts - Whats the cost/subber?
49834. Robert Johnston           Re: type of mag?
49835. Nick Lamburn              Re: AFB Adverts - Whats the cost/subber?
49836. Nick Lamburn              Re: type of mag?
49837. Ben Vost                  Re: AFB Adverts - Whats the cost/subber?
49838. Nick Lamburn              Re: AFB Adverts - Whats the cost/subber?
49839. Robert Johnston           Re: type of mag?
49840. Robert Johnston           Re: AFB Adverts - Whats the cost/subber?
49841. Ben Vost                  Re: AFB Adverts - Whats the cost/subber?
49842. Nick Lamburn              Re: type of mag?
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From: Ken Walsh <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 19:54:53 +0000
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Hello itsonlymemate

> Hi,
>
> I was reading AF #126 and in the PD pages was a little proggie called FACTS
> 2.7 (Finest Amiga Clock Time Synchroniser) which updates your clock
> automatically when you log on to the net. Download from the aminet
> "comm/tcp/facts.lha", hope it helps.

It was also on a disk about 3 issues back (maybe 4) I use it all the time as
my clock on my 1260 has gone and works a treat only take a second as soon as
you log on. It retimes your in built clock and is OK it does it all on its
own you don't know it does it.

                 Cheers all the best

                       Ken








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From: jeremy spring <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 11:50:03 +1200
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Hello Daniel

On 03-Mar-00, you wrote:
. Is it worth paying to remove them again?
Regards
--
I feel it is if it isn't too expensive.
Could one in the know let us all know what htis would cost?

Jeremy Spring Powered by an 040 4000 with a stuffed internal clock but
potloads of memory
and so on.



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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:47:08 +0100
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Hi Ben

>> Could someone with an imac (ie. has no floppy drive) tell me if any
>> programs have a floppy disk icon for saving a file? I bet there is....

> What?! Do you mean in the file requester? Then no, it doesn't, but then
> the standard Mac file requester doesn't rely on icons.

Dont sound so surprised!, no I mean like in a word processor or gfx program.
I'm just wondering ifthe floppy-less imac has floppy icons for saving stuff

Mash -
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HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

"Awright, hold it...where's the mutant repellant?" -Steve







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 19:14:48 +0100
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Subject: [afb] Re: Not much going on on my birthday...
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Hi Toffypops

> all donations accepted..as long as it's in real money..:D

I've just bought an island near Australia, its 1" in size so didn't cost
much. As ruler of this ne country I've set up my own currency, Koodas.
Here, I've deposited a million into your bank account :) oh the exchange
rate? about 1 : K1,000,000,000

;)

Mash -
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HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

Screw the Prime directive Mr. Worf, Upload WINDOWS 3.1 to the Borg!







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:55:08 +0100
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Hi M.

> Someone needs to look up the word "icon" and the word "metaphor"

Dont get all stuck up with me, I simply asked a question. And what about new
computer users? They're looking for a save button, but if they've never
owned a computer before, they'll not have seen a floppy and have no chance
in hell of getting the link between saving and a picture of an obsolete
piece of hardware will they?

Mash -
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HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

Is "Artery"  The study of fine paintings?







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 15:21:01 +0100
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On 02-Mar-00, Ben Vost wrote:

>> I seriously doubt that the majority of people are interested in
>> "practical electronics projects".

> That much was demonstrated by CU...

The IR thing?

Mash -
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Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

Oxymoron: Texas Chic.







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 15:23:57 +0100
In-Reply-To: <89k1ga$[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Re: BT
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On 01-Mar-00, Will wrote:

> I haven`t tried to log on with an Amiga but the help line did tell me
> (some time ago,) that although they don`t officially support Amiga
> there are some Amiga news groups on BT and it is possible to configure
> a 1200 to log on.

And something else you might not have realised, anyone can join. ie. you
dont need to be connected to BT like I previously thought!

Mash -
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HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

November 9, 1994: Clinton wakes up and thinks he is in a bad dream.







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 15:32:17 +0100
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Hi Tim

> The reason TV didn't just outright broadcast at 50 fps (or higher), is
> that too much radio spectrum would be needed.  But due to how the
> interlaced scanning works, one field after another, you're getting a
> picture displayed down the tube 50 times a second, so that motion is
> smoother.

Thankyooooooou! :)

Mash - whos just had everything confirmed by ANOTHER expert 8)
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I speak English, but COBOL-85 is my native tongue







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 15:47:39 +0100
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Subject: [afb] Re: Matt's Clinic & WOA2000 was  TweakWB, WBCtrl, FBlit
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On 02-Mar-00, Tudor Davies wrote:

> Ideas? Question? Flames?

Are we allowed to add any solidifying substances to the wet sponges?, such
as ohhhhh, I dont know, lets say, cement?

Mash -
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HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

YOU'VE been talking to GARIBALDI again! <Sinclair>







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 15:56:43 +0100
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Hi M.

>> 3/ Everyone gets to meet Matt face-to-face (i'm sure this would help!)

> I'll be wearing a t-shirt anyway, I think. You'll all be able to see who I
> am..

Ok, lets try this again shall we? hundreds on the Imagine list managed to
get off their arses and do it, so lets you you lot do it, k?

Right, simple really. Just send me a reasonably sized picture of yourself
(ME, not the list!) and I'll compile them all into an address book which
can be imported into YAM (it gets added to your list, not overwritten) I'll
then resize and colour them so they're the same and make several versions,
small 16 colour greyscale for aga users, a mid version, and a larger, more
colours version for ggfx card users. This way we'll have a face for all the
members on the list, making it more personal and make people less lilely to
start flaming because they wont feel as much of a barrier between each
other. Plus when the WOA pops up, we'll all know who to beat into a pulp
because we dont like them :)

Anyone without a scanner or digicam should borrow one for a few minutes,
else make a doodle in ppaint on the front cover of AF. Maybe Ben could make
this a rule for joining, like the dates in polls? :)

So far I already have myself, Oliver masters and Bifford's pics, get 'em
rolling in!

No bigger than 320 wide please, ideally in PNG format. DONT SEND ME 24-BIT
IFF FILES! (glares at Bifford...) I have a phonebill to think about!

Mash -
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HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

The whiteness of confusion is unfolding from my mind. -Panacea, Rush







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 15:59:01 +0100
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On 02-Mar-00, Tudor Davies wrote:

> You mean that you will be wearing a "I'm Matt Sealey" T-shirt?
> Cool - I want one just to confuse people :)

How many people will pick up the Monty Python link here?

> Seriously Matt - you have a skill/knack that the rest of us could use -

Pissing people off more than me? =)

Mash - I'm Matt!
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"I yam Popeye o'de Borg.  Preparez ta be askimiligrated."







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From: Colin Buchanan <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 20:12:04 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
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When I get my BlizzardPPC back (or more probably buy a new
one) I want to install the interesting looking mmu.library
and its equally interesting tools.

Obviously I'll have to install WarpUp as PowerUp is
incompatible with the mmu.library and there is very little
reason to run PowerUp anymore, right?

But which 68040.library is the best?  The phase5 one, the
one that comes with OS3.5, or the MMULib one?  Do the
phase5 or OS3.5 ones have any advantages over the MMULib
one?

Will I be able to remove CyberPatcher from my system?  I
can't quite work out from the documentation whether the
MMULib makes it obsolete.

I'll also want to use one of the MuTools to remap the
kickstart to fast RAM, rather than using any other method,
won't I?

--
Colin Buchanan
Heriot-Watt University



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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 12:31:22 -0800
From: "Will" <[e-mail]>
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"gerald mellor" <[e-mail]> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49606
> On 1 Mar 00, at 14:53, Will wrote:
>
> > That is absolutely my point. They don't use Amigas for the net and
> > commercial applications and are not interested in Amiga news (such
that
> > it is.) BUT they all still own perfectly good working Amigas which
> > could be put to other uses. Perhaps with just a little
encouragement.
>
> But I think the point everyone else is trying to make is, if they're
not
> buying commercial applications or upgrading their systems, then
> what's the point of getting them to read Amiga magazines?

I (and most people,) don`t see the point of spending a mint on
upgrading a system which will not do the tasks that other systems will
do at a fraction of the cost. But I do see the point in using the
existing hardwear and I believe that there are many other people who
think the same.

> You see the Amiga as something like the C64, an old computer not
> worth buying anything for, but maybe useful for some dedicated
> tasks.

Not quite, I use my Amigas daily but I am aware of their limitations
and I don`t feel part of any "Community" or club. Nor do I feel obliged
to spend money to support a brand name - why should I?

> (apologies to any C64 fanatics on the list :) Whereas for a lot
> of us, our Amigas are our main computers and what we want to see
> in Amiga magazines is news about new software and hardware that
> we can use to do everything other home computer users can do, and
> more.

I do too and when this new hardwear and softwear comes out I will be
interested in it. Until that time (if it ever comes,) I am interested
in practical uses for my current equipment - is that such a bad thing?


Cheers

Will.



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From: Sandy Brownlee <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 20:19:18 +0000
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Hello Ben

On 02-Mar-00, you wrote:

>> When Amiga Shopper went to staples it only lasted about another 3
>> months tell me the same thing isn't going to happen with AF
>
> It lasted nearly a year, didn't it?

I'll try not to read anything into that :-)

Regards

        Sandy

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From: Sandy Brownlee <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 20:22:30 +0000
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Hello Nick

On 02-Mar-00, you wrote:

> I agree, that is complete utter crap (sorry), DPaint is great, yes, I
> have DPaint II, III and IV.V :) (4.5) and PPaint is still used more,
> okay so because DPaint doesn't like my Pixel 64, but PPaint is a modern
> bitmap painting package that is unrivalled.

I think the only part where DPaint wins over PPaint is the anim facilites.
IMO the move requestor is v powerful.

Regards

        Sandy

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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 12:50:51 -0800
From: "Will" <[e-mail]>
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matthew o'neill <[e-mail]> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49749
> On 01-Mar-00, Will wrote:
>
> > I haven`t tried to log on with an Amiga but the help line did tell
me
> > (some time ago,) that although they don`t officially support Amiga
> > there are some Amiga news groups on BT and it is possible to
configure
> > a 1200 to log on.
>
> And something else you might not have realised, anyone can join. ie.
you
> dont need to be connected to BT like I previously thought!

Interesting! I didn`t know that.


Cheers

Will.>



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From: "Alex Furmanski" <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 20:56:53 -0000
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Hi Tim

Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 12:00 AM
Subject: [afb] Re: Fillums (was: More A1200 Qs)


> _Replying to a message_:
>
>  By:  Ben Vost <[e-mail]>
>  To:  afb <[e-mail]>
>  On:  24-Feb-00 18:45:38

As expected ;-)

> This is interlace flicker, you'll see the same thing on high resolution
> monitors showing interlaced computer signals.  (Usually) only computer
> graphics had a fine enough definition to only appear on one of the
> lines, thus appearing in one field, but not the next, so flickering at
> 25 times per second.  Though sometimes you'll see that happen on
> somebodies finely patterned jacket, on TV, if the studio has really good
> definition in their cameras.

[snip the rest of your useful, informative mail - thanks]

I thought that jacket-pattern flicker was caused by the TV set getting the
luminance and chrominance signals confused.

Lovely job
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From: Jim Spratt <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 21:03:53 +0000
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Does anyone know what the e-mail address of BT Internet is, as I want to
start a campaign to get them to accept applications from people without
credit cards and with Amiga's

TTFN

Jim Spratt

[e-mail]



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Date: 2 Mar 2000 21:14:24 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
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Ben Vost said,

>> Lately when I've been booting up TurboSpool has been trying to start up
>> before TurboStart, which as y'all know, won't work. I adjusted some things
>> in my WBStartup drawer -- that is, on all the items in the drawer I set
>> one of the tooltypes to CX_PRIORITY=2. Everything except TurboStart has
>> that tooltype; TurboStart has CX_PRIORITY=0. My understanding is that the
>> lower the number is, the earlier the program will start, which means that
>> TurboStart should be the first thing that runs.

> T'other way around mate. 127 is the highest priority, 0 is normal, -127 is
> the lowest.

You're all wrong :)

CX_PRIORITY defines the priority for input events. If two commodities
are waiting for LAMIGA ESC, the one with the higher CX_PRIORITY will get
it.

To set the startup order in WBStartup, you need to set STARTPRI. Higher
values start sooner.


Neil
--
Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
--
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From:  "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 2 Mar 2000 21:31:45 +0000
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On Thu, 02 Mar 2000 19:47:08 +0000, Wesley Potter ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I cannot for the life of me get Genesis to work with BTInternet it
> just gets stuck trying to find my hostname and domain name
>
> Any info would be gratefully recieved

you need to downgrade ppp.device to the one that came with the NetConnect
2.2 update, IIRC ...

Kev

--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 13:46:20 -0800
From: "Nick Darley-Jones" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Re: TweakWB, WBCtrl, FBlit
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Hi Matt,

> > P.S.  Has anyone noticed that TweekWB has a problem with
> > Fblit (v3.51)?
>
> If you only have FBlit 3.51 you need to set the LoadWB command to
> use SIMPLEGELS otherwise **FBlit** sucks up memory, not WBCtrl.
>
> To fix it properly?
>
> Right, go to http://www.tpec.u-net.com and get FBlit 3.56e because
> you'll need it for this. Note down your FBlit settings, and delete the
> ENVARC:FBlit.cfg file before installing it. Get the newest WBCtrl as
> well.
>
> et voila! If you're having lots of trouble, just give me a poke and
I'll
> see if I can help. For I am the FBlit Master!!!

O.K, that worked lovely.  Thanks very mucg for solving my problem.

Next question (you are the FBlit master ;) ), do the following...
Boot up and everythings fine.  Open your OS partition and then close it.
Note how much chipram you have.  Do it again and it reverts back to the
same chipram.
Now, do it again but open the C: drawer as well.  Does your system do
the
same as mine?  Does the chipram disappear without a trace?  My 'C'
drawer
contains 1.9Mb in 3700 blocks if it is any use to you.

How do I get back that missing bit?

Thanks again for your help (my system is better now!)

Reagrds,
Nick.

----------
G.A.G  (Gloucestershire Amiga Group)
       http://www.free0052804.free4all.co.uk
       Virtual online Games?  See our site.
       BTW, we need more members (new group)
----------



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From: Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?= <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 21:35:02 +0300
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On 02-Mar-00 Bert Volders wrote:

> you don't see what you're doing. Somehow, I don't know why, I feel
> like I have to be in charge of what code is generated.

> Regards
> --
> Bert Volders

Me too! </AOL>

Seriously, I like to write HTML by hand because I have seen how horrible
code those programs can generate. Using non-breaking spaces for picture
alignment (which is inaccurate anyway) and leave behind long strings of
nested commands (like <B></B>) that do absolutely nothing. If you do it
by hand, the code will be accurate, short, does *exactly* what you want
it to do, nothing more. Short code = faster download = happy surfers
that bookmark your page.

Only after I am proven those programs churn out compact code with no
excessive and unnecessary additions, and use rational layout methods, I
will leave the task to the computer.

It might even be reality when they finally develope those learning
neural network things that first watch me work, then emulate my
actions. :)

- Jani, HTML control freak ;)
--
"The capacity of technology to modify the definition of humanity"



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Date: 2 Mar 2000 21:23:49 +0000
In-Reply-To: <89jhga$[e-mail]>
From:  "Andy Mills" <[e-mail]>
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Hello Samuel Byford, on 01-Mar-00 16:46:02 you said about:
  [afb] Re: BT Internet

[snip BTI]

>I may just consider de-subbing from Wirenet to join up for this (and I
>can still use Cable & Wireless cheaper calls during the day).

>I mean - 14 a month for a very good service and 20Mb space but no real
>free time

>Or 10 a month for a service i aint sure about, unkown webspace but
>free calls evenings and weekends??

>So, what i now need to know is whats the service like? (connection wise
>- dont need technical) whats the website space and what URL do you
>get????

I have had a BTInternet account for around 5-6 months now. Connecting
isn't too great, but not dire either. The 0800 weekend access was
usually (but not always) /diabolically/ sllllloooooowwwwww - I've had
downloads of around 300 bytes per second. Just read the bitching on the
BTi support newsgroup....

As for evening access, this /may/ take the load off of the weekend, but
I can see that they will get bogged down again by people signing up for
it.

--
 The Amiga Resource - http://www.amigaresource.org
 South West Amiga Group - http://www.swag.org.uk
 afb-ot's official webshite - http://www.afb-ot.co.uk
--
Cardassian Cable : 4 channels? No! We have *5* channels!



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Date: 2 Mar 2000 21:32:6 +0000
In-Reply-To: <01fd01bf83bb$2bb70180$098ebcd4@innit>
From:  "Andy Mills" <[e-mail]>
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Hello Alex Furmanski, on 01-Mar-00 20:17:10 you said about:
  [afb] Re: hosts

>Hi Matt

>> Someone pointed me at a lovely place: http://www.gradwell.com

>They do look pretty good.  So could I get a domain registered with them
>and host it on, say Free4All?  Would it be a full host or just forwarding?

/me slaps the Yeti around the head with the wet end of Barry the sheep.

Who do you think the afb-ot domain was regged with and where do you
think it's hosted... ;)

I have used Gradwell on several occasions and use them for Web
and email forwarding for SWAG with no problems (and more importantly,
seen no-one complain about them/him).

--
 The Amiga Resource - http://www.amigaresource.org
 South West Amiga Group - http://www.swag.org.uk
 afb-ot's official webshite - http://www.afb-ot.co.uk
--
Some days you're the dog, some days you're the hydrant!



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Date: 2 Mar 2000 21:35:47 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Hello Matthew O'Neill, on 01-Mar-00 15:19:30 you said about:
  [afb] Re: hosts

>Hi M.

>> Or you COULD have just paid someone like http://www.gradwell.com
>> 10 for the domain and hosted it any damned where you like
>> forever (as long as you kept paying the 10 a two-year or whatever)

>I was looking for something like that! :/ but every time I went to such a
>page it'd read "Only 9.99!, plus 15/month thereafter...." Loads of places
>will host them free, but all the cheap registration places needed you to
>sign on for a year or so :/

You'll have to check, but IIRC, Gradwell used to give partial refunds if
you cancelled your forwarding with them, e.g., if you cancel after 6
months, you got 5 back. Whether he still does, I don't know without
looking...

--
 The Amiga Resource - http://www.amigaresource.org
 South West Amiga Group - http://www.swag.org.uk
 afb-ot's official webshite - http://www.afb-ot.co.uk
--
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Date: 2 Mar 2000 21:49:51 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
From:  "Andy Mills" <[e-mail]>
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Hello ANTONF, on 02-Mar-00 12:21:52 you said about:
  [afb] Buster

>I was wanting a few pieces of information.
>Firstly should I get my Buster rev9 replaced with a rev11.

Yes, the rev9 buster is quite buggy. As for cost, I haven't a clue...

>If so how much would it cost?
>And can I do it myself or is it a tricky operation?

This really does depend upon whether it's soldered onto the motherboard,
or whether it's in a socket. If it's in a socket, you're luckly - it's a
case of levering the old one out with a small screw driver and pushing
the new one in (the right way round, of course... ;). I believe Power
computing stock new buster chips.

If the buster is soldered directly to the M/B, then forget doinfg it
yourself. It will have to be done by someone that can handle that sort
of thing. If this is the case, it may be worth having a socket fitted at
the same time.

>I ask this because I heard that rev9 can only take two cards which I have
>but I was
>hoping to get a G3 board and didnt want to have any problems.

The G3's, and most A4k accelerators fit onto the CPU slot, and not to
the zorro bus.

--
 The Amiga Resource - http://www.amigaresource.org
 South West Amiga Group - http://www.swag.org.uk
 afb-ot's official webshite - http://www.afb-ot.co.uk
--
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From: Vincenzo Morra <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 22:00:37 +0100
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Hello,

Punchinello 2 will be out quite soon. I have tested the hardware and we are
waiting for the software patch for the wheel.

Also, and this could be a good news, I am re-writing the BVision manual, and
there is a good chance that we will have them in in 3 weeks time.
I am not aware of price and wuantity.

Regards
--
Vincenzo Morra
[e-mail]
www.morres.demon.co.uk
ICQ: 18467837



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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 14:05:06 -0800
From: "Nick Darley-Jones" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <B44818507957D2118C0400A0C9DAFBEA01E6A8A6@EUSWIEXC02>
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Hi Rob,

> I noticed a web page for the Gloucestershire Amiga Group at the
bottom of the mail "Pathetic Ioblix speeds".  Trying to access this
from my girlfriends laptop I had no luck.  Why is this, and how can I
get in touch with the group.

It's me!  This is a little usergroup based in Stroud, Glos. that I set
up
only a month ago.  Just by placing an advert (free!!!) in the local
'Trade it' I have managed to get about 4 members (I have only met one so
far!).  We will be holding another meeting soon so please contact me at
[e-mail] or http://www.free0052804.free4all.co.uk
I don't know why you have had problems getting to my website.  Has
anyone else had these problems?

Please contact me.

Regards,
Nick

---------
G.A.G  (Gloucestershire Amiga Group)
       http://www.free0052804.free4all.co.uk
---------





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From: Bert Volders <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 23:04:35 +0100
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Hey Jani

On 02-maa-00, you wrote:

> On 02-Mar-00 Bert Volders wrote:
> =

> Seriously, I like to write HTML by hand because I have seen how horribl=
e
> code those programs can generate. =


Not that the code produced by me is all to effici=EBnt but at least I'm a=
ble to track down the errors I've created [and there where I can't find t=
hem you lot come along ;-)) ]. No seriously, I've seen examples from site=
s build by M$-ware with all the basic errors everyone makes (like \-slash=
es instead of /-slahes as directory seperators. And that's only one. Also=
 you don't learn about HTML when you use those shiny generators. Sure you=
 can argue about the need of learning it (afterall who's interested at th=
e formatting of normal documents like WW-files) but I feel I have to.
> =

Regards
-- =

Bert Volders

[e-mail]
<sb>
Tag of the day:
Success is like a fart - only your own smells nice.
-- James P. Hogan




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From: Stephen Webber <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 21:39:25 +0100
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Hello Nick

On 02-Mar-00, you wrote:

>
> Yes, that sounds rather strange; since I have sucessfully used 512Kb
> ROM images and 1Mb ROM images (2).  I took them from my Mac IIci
> (512Kb) and my Quadra 650 and 950. (1Mb)
>
> I cannot see why a patch is needed...  Please tell us more! :)
>
>
Found the patch on my hardrive after all!  It may only be needed on phase5
systems, I'm not sure.  If you want the archive, mail me privately.

Here is the doc file from it:

#FixPATCHMAC is a hack to get around the bug in the PATCHMAC option in#
#CyberMap and its ROM equivalent.  The extra low-memory pages don't get#
#valid mappings, causing FUSION to crash.  This program looks for low
memory#
#pages with invalid mappings and replaces them with the normal 1:1 mappings#
#used for most CHIP RAM pages.  It only affects 040/060 systems.#
##
#This is an updated version which also corrects the lower bound of the CHIP#
#region to be the same as it is without PATCHMAC.  Aside from making the#
#memory configuration look even more like the standard setup, it permits#
#FixPATCHMAC to be used either before or after SetPatch.  The end result of#
#PATCHMAC with FixPATCHMAC is that the CHIP memory configuration is
entirely#
#normal except for the low 16K being "preallocated" to keep it available
for#
#the Mac.#
##
#Note that an official fix from Microcode Solutions will be available soon,#
#in the form of updated versions of the RsrvXXXX programs.  That version of#
#the fix only performs the lower-bound adjustment and hence *must* precede#
#SetPatch in the startup.#
##
#Usage:#
##
#Just run it any time before running FUSION, probably most conveniently in#
#User-Startup.  It does nothing unless it finds something to fix, and does#
#not leave any warm-boot-survivable patches.#
##
##
#                    Frederick H. G. Wright II#
#                    [e-mail]#
#                    5-Aug-1998#
##


Regards
--
Stephen Webber
[e-mail]



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From: "Oliver Masters" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:40:07 -0000
In-reply-to: <[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Re: Matt's Clinic & WOA2000 was  TweakWB, WBCtrl, FBlit
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Hiya Mash,

> So far I already have myself, Oliver masters and Bifford's pics, get 'em
> rolling in!
>

Aaargh, that's a foul pic of me. I would send a better one but that's
actually what I look like. Mind you I was a bit shocked in that one, I'd
just got back from having the other 24 inches of hair chopped off for a new
job. At least when I was out of work my ears were warm :)

See ya later,

Oll



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From: "Bill Griffin" <[e-mail]>
Date: 2 Mar 2000 17:54:31 +0500
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I have asked this question on the mFTP support ml and directly to
Vaporware. As yet I have received NO responses. Can anyone tell me if
the upload feature on the shareware version of mFTP2 is disabled. I
keep trying to upload to my new website and the program locks up every
time!

I would be glad to register the prog if I knew that that was all it
would take to clear up the problem. But, until someone can tell me
that would take care of things, I don't want to spend out money to
register a screwed-up program that simply won't work.
--
Its gonna be a heck of a century!

Bill Griffin,

G&G Publishing Enterprises


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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 22:57:57 +0000
From: Arran Smalley <[e-mail]>
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Matthew O'Neill wrote:
>
> Hi M.
>
> > Someone needs to look up the word "icon" and the word "metaphor"
>
> Dont get all stuck up with me, I simply asked a question. And what about new
> computer users? They're looking for a save button, but if they've never
> owned a computer before, they'll not have seen a floppy and have no chance
> in hell of getting the link between saving and a picture of an obsolete
> piece of hardware will they?
>
> Mash -

I have a Mac G4 here, no floppy and no icons denoting floppies for
saving stuff, either save via menu's where it says Save or Apple Works 5
for eg. uses a little vanilla folder icon. Besides if you leave the
cursor over an symbol for a few seconds, it pops up a little message
saying what it is.
What did you expect? I can't think of any s/w, off the top of my head,
that uses a floppy symbol for saving. Excepting some ancient PC stuff,
Win 3.1 stuff, IIRC.



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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 15:20:52 -0800
From: "Steven Holmes" <[e-mail]>
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We are throwing away literally hundreds of pounds of old Vauxhall stock
at the dealers I work for (Martin Rumble Hinckley), some of it is Nova
stuff, and I really want to see it go to good homes rather than in the
skip!
Things to be slung very soon include:

Vauxhall guaranteed exchange steering rack, with gaiters (believe me,
as good as new, I'm having one!)
1.0 Timing chain kit (chain, gaskets etc...)
Front bumper for Club style car (white)
Rear bumper for Club style car (white)

Probably more... Please don't let this end up in the skip (it's
heartbreaking!)
I can do these parts RIDICULOUSLY cheap!

Also, loads of other non moving Vauxhall stock going. Requests?


Steven Holmes (on parts direct line 01455 634627)



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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 15:24:13 -0800
From: "Steven Holmes" <[e-mail]>
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Bugger! Wrong list! :-o

Anyway, the offer still stands. Vauxhall owning Amiga users, give me a
shout!


Steven Holmes




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From: "Bruce Ruff" <[e-mail]>
Date: 2 Mar 100 23:24:00 +0000
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Sender: Kevin Fairhurst
Subject: [afb] Re: Genesis and BTInternet
Date:     2 Mar 2000 21:31:45 +0000

Hi

> On Thu, 02 Mar 2000 19:47:08 +0000, Wesley Potter ([e-mail]) wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I cannot for the life of me get Genesis to work with BTInternet it
> > just gets stuck trying to find my hostname and domain name
> >
> > Any info would be gratefully recieved
>
> you need to downgrade ppp.device to the one that came with the NetConnect
> 2.2 update, IIRC ...
>
> Kev
 Well I did that when I used BTInternet a few months ago and it made
no difference. In the end I had to register Miami which worked like a
dream. BTInternet wasn't a dream though. It was and is still very very
slow. I came off it and am travelling at great speed with UKOnline.
BTSurftime sounds a better proposition.

--

Bruce


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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 23:22:04 +0000
From: Christopher Ross-Gill <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Re: What's on AFCD51?
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Sandy Brownlee wrote:
>
> I think the only part where DPaint wins over PPaint is the anim
> facilites. IMO the move requestor is v powerful.

Or the symmetry tools, or anti-aliased lines and shapes, or the nice but
flawed media/texture tools.  I think for raw creation, DPaint V has the
edge, but they compliment each other well through the clipboard and
ARexx.  What ever happened to Brilliance?

I think it is a crying shame that DPaint can't be used with graphics
cards :'-(

- Chris




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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 23:22:09 +0000
From: Christopher Ross-Gill <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
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Ben Vost wrote:
>
> I had a day off school when Herg died I was so distraught...

I was a little young to remember that, although it was around the time I
first got a Tintin book.  He certainly left an impressive legacy - was
'Prisoners of the Sun' not one of the inspirations behind 'Raiders of
the Lost Ark'?

Have you looked at the book he was doing up to the time of his death?
IIRC, it was released unfinished with many WIP sketches and notes
included.

- Chris



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From: "Oliver Masters" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 23:45:28 -0000
In-reply-to: <89moii$[e-mail]>
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Nick Darley-Jones said this:

> > I noticed a web page for the Gloucestershire Amiga Group at the
> bottom of the mail "Pathetic Ioblix speeds".  Trying to access this
> from my girlfriends laptop I had no luck.  Why is this, and how can I
> get in touch with the group.
>
> It's me!  This is a little usergroup based in Stroud, Glos. that I set
> up
> only a month ago.  Just by placing an advert (free!!!) in the local
> 'Trade it' I have managed to get about 4 members (I have only met one so
> far!).  We will be holding another meeting soon so please contact me at
> [e-mail] or http://www.free0052804.free4all.co.uk
> I don't know why you have had problems getting to my website.  Has
> anyone else had these problems?

Hiya Nick,

I tried your site and got a totally blank page, here's why...

<TITLE>The GAG Website</TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
<FRAMESET frameborder=0 COLS="*" ROWS="98,*">
<FRAME SRC="titlebar.html" NAME="titlebar" SCROLLING="no" MARGINWIDTH=3>
<FRAMESET frameborder="0" COLS="150,*" ROWS="*">
    <FRAME SRC="linkbar.html" NAME="linkbar" SCROLLING="no" MARGINWIDTH=3>
<FRAME SRC="main.html" NAME="main"   SCROLLING="auto" MARGINWIDTH=3>
</FRAMESET>
</FRAMESET>
</BODY>

Another person who doesn't know where to put <FRAMESET> tags :)

You can't have a frameset within the body. The only purpose of a frameset
page is to establish the frames, each frame then loads a seperate page, each
seperate page has a body where all its text and images are laid out. The
only place on a frameset page that should have <BODY> tags is within the
<NOFRAMES> tags. This body text is then displayed on browsers that do not
support frames.

Does nobody read AF tutorials?

See ya later,

Oll



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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 23:46:44 +0000
From: Arran Smalley <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <001101bf8489$ee4a5ca0$d78fbcd4@innit>
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> [snip the rest of your useful, informative mail - thanks]
>
> I thought that jacket-pattern flicker was caused by the TV set getting the
> luminance and chrominance signals confused.
>
> Lovely job
> --
> Alex Furmanski - [e-mail]

I thought it was a moire effect caused by the patterns on the jacket not
being matched properly by the pixels on the CRT?

Arran


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From: roger buckley <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 19:37:18 +0000
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Hello Tudor

On 02-Mar-00, you wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 05:19:20PM -0000, Sealey, M. wrote:
>
>> et voila! If you're having lots of trouble, just give me a poke and I'll
>> see if I can help. For I am the FBlit Master!!!
>

> The other spin-off would be someone opposite his stand selling wet sponges
> to throw at him :)
>
I'm pretty sure which stand would make the most money :)

> Seriously though, I think this "clinic" idea would be well worth it.
>
> l8r
Regards
--
Roger

Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 8 MBFast, Seagate 410MB
2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k Modem,
Power Port Junr Serial IF G.Image Hand Scanner & Citizen Swift Printer.
Website:-http://callnetuk.com/home/rogerbu
ICQ-62990780 Robuck2
Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you
won't either.
-- Murphy's laws on sex




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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 01:15:33 +0000
In-reply-to: <89mfm5$[e-mail]>
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On 2 Mar 00, at 11:33, Will wrote:

> You`re dead right, the majority of people are not. However, if you take
> a look at the amount of electronics mags in any major shop you will see
> that there are enough people who are interested in both electroics and
> HI FI to keep the circulation of quite a few mags going.

So those magazines already exist, we don't want AF to turn into
that. I think you'll find most of the people on this list (which after all
makes up just under 10% of AF's readership) are perfectly happy
with AF in the role it's filling right now.

Gerry


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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 01:15:45 +0000
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On 2 Mar 00, at 12:31, Will wrote:

>> You see the Amiga as something like the C64, an old computer not
>> worth buying anything for, but maybe useful for some dedicated
>> tasks.
>
> Not quite, I use my Amigas daily but I am aware of their limitations
> and I don`t feel part of any "Community" or club. Nor do I feel obliged
> to spend money to support a brand name - why should I?

Well I don't feel part of a community either, that's something invented
by people like Petro and Jim Collas, imo. Or maybe it's there, but I
always feel faintly embarrassed when I hear the management of
Amiga talking about it. There's no reason to support a brand name,
as long as you're happy with the alternatives if development for your
favourite platform ceases.

I'm *not* happy with the alternatives. I like AmigaOS, which is why I
buy software like IBrowse and Voyager. Although I'm not entirely
happy with their current performance, I'm hoping that some day soon
either one will become stable enough and compatible enough for me
to use on the majority of websites. The only way they will be
developed is if people spend money on them now (I'm just using
browsers as an example here, the same goes for other software too).
I'm not *blindly* supporting a brand name, I'm paying for what I enjoy
using and what I would like to see more of in the future.

> I do too and when this new hardwear and softwear comes out I will be
> interested in it. Until that time (if it ever comes,) I am interested
> in practical uses for my current equipment - is that such a bad thing?

Not at all, I just don't think you should expect AF to give up their
News section and replace it with practical electronics projects, which
is what you seemed to be suggesting.

Gerry


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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 17:41:22 -0800
From: "Nick Darley-Jones" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Oliver,
>
> Hiya Nick,
>
> I tried your site and got a totally blank page, here's why...
>
> <TITLE>The GAG Website</TITLE>
> </HEAD>
> <BODY>
> <FRAMESET frameborder=0 COLS="*" ROWS="98,*">
> <FRAME SRC="titlebar.html" NAME="titlebar" SCROLLING="no"
MARGINWIDTH=3>
> <FRAMESET frameborder="0" COLS="150,*" ROWS="*">
>     <FRAME SRC="linkbar.html" NAME="linkbar" SCROLLING="no"
MARGINWIDTH=3>
> <FRAME SRC="main.html" NAME="main"   SCROLLING="auto" MARGINWIDTH=3>
> </FRAMESET>
> </FRAMESET>
> </BODY>
>
> Another person who doesn't know where to put <FRAMESET> tags :)
>
> You can't have a frameset within the body. The only purpose of a
frameset
> page is to establish the frames, each frame then loads a seperate
page, each
> seperate page has a body where all its text and images are laid out.
The
> only place on a frameset page that should have <BODY> tags is within
the
> <NOFRAMES> tags. This body text is then displayed on browsers that do
not
> support frames.
>
> Does nobody read AF tutorials?
>
Thanks mate!  To be honest this is my first attempt at writing/designing
a website.  I will be more careful next time.

Regards,
Nick.





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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 18:47:30 -0800
From: "Anthony E. Bodo" <[e-mail]>
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"ben vost" <[e-mail]> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49697
> Hi Anthony,
>
> > Greetings from across da pond (lb?) Will there be an article in AF
> > regarding
> > this thing called USB in regards to the AMIGA?...thanks & Cheers!
>
> I'll do it for you right now.
>
> There is no USB for the Amiga right now, but there are two or three
> companies working on it. However, it will almost certainly be limited
to
> Zorro III-based computers from what these developers have told me
because
> of the fact that you need the speed that Zorro III provides along
with the
> DMA and bus mastering facilities. Even wehn the hardware gets done,
it's
> not the end of the story since then drivers need to be made for the
> hardware you attach to the port.
>
> How's that? :)
>
> All the best,
> --
> Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: (+44) 01225
442244
> Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> A glass is half-full to an optimist. To a pessimist, a glass is half-
> empty. An engineer thinks the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
- - -- - - - - - -- - -- -

Ach du lieber!...Danke Herr Vost!..More confused now than before..
Cheers!....tony



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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 16:16:25 +0100
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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On 02-Mar-00, Ben Vost wrote:

>>> T'other way around mate. 127 is the highest priority, 0 is normal, -127
>>> is the lowest.

>> Why don't you read other people's replies before posting you're own, Ben?
>> I mean, come on, I beat you to it by 37 seconds ...

Something uses priorities the other way round?..... is it the boot sequence?

> Well, tbh, your answer *was* quite wishy-washy - all AFAIK and all that.
> Mine is firm and definitive, as you'd expect from someone of my stature
> (about 6'2", thanks for asking).

6'2"??? sniff sniff..... sniff........ sniff..... Male cow droppings!

Mash - 6'3"
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

It's people, not guns or knives that kill.







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 16:32:02 +0100
In-Reply-To: <B44818507957D2118C0400A0C9DAFBEA01E6A8A6@EUSWIEXC02>
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On 02-Mar-00, [e-mail] wrote:

> I noticed a web page for the Gloucestershire Amiga Group at the bottom of
> the mail "Pathetic Ioblix speeds". Trying to access this from my
> girlfriends laptop I had no luck. Why is this, and how can I get in touch
> with the group.

What are the Ioblix speeds like (the one that connects to the 1200
clockport) theres one on amibench for 15 that I've got my eye on....

Mash -
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

My, what a miserable shot you are - Hobbes







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 16:31:49 +0100
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On 02-Mar-00, Ben Vost wrote:

>> 1) DPaint still had some features miles ahead of it, and that is years
>> old

> And doesn't work on gfx cards well.

"Pants" said Mash, as he purchased a bvision...

>> 3) Everyone already has DPaint which does virtually the same thing just
>> aswell anyway

> I disagree. Go on, do me an animated gif in DPaint...

I never said DPaint was better in every way

>> Basically, it never offered anything marginally better than that which
>> was given away with amigas anyway, you can heardly blame anyone for not
>> buying it.

> Tosh.

Ok then, for someone who owns Dpaint, why would they want to buy PPaint? The
animation capabilities dont even scratch DPaint. The filters are all done
many times better in other paint packages. I dont know about you, but I
dont make SIPS or SIRDS on a daily basis. The only plus point for most
people would be the arexx port and the scripts which were included. Oh, and
there's no morphing, half the paint modes available, you can't antialias,
the storyboard was useless because it was almost guarenteed to crash after
doing more than 4 operations. Plus worst of all the toolbar was on the
left. Unforgivable! ;)

But generally it just didn't work as well. Dpaint instantly scaled up the
circle drawing tool while ppaint treats it as a brush and has to do a bit
of processing on it. It also takes up a much larger amount of chipmem just
to load it. Even if all these problems were addressed, it'd still only be
on par with a prgram everyone already had.

Still tosh?

Mash -
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

Cthulhu loves you, with an apple in your mouth.







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 18:12:19 +0100
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
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Hi

I know there'll be a lot to say. I'm getting a ppc and bvision in a couple
of days and I want to know what I should and shouldn't instal, and in which
order. Theres the official powerup stuff, then theres warpup which is the
best and most supported, then theres the gfx stuff, do I stick with the
default stuff or go for picasso/cybergfx? or is there something else
better?

Also whats the best versions of file viewers? jpg, mpg, mov,avi, mp3 etc.
Any essential hacks for the ppc like fblit for AGA? Oh and overall which is
the best quake port ? =)

Mash
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

We are all God's children - by a previous marriage!







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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:21:10 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Bullock [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 02 March 2000 00:49
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: Doing the Business on the Amiga
>=20
> > Anybody know if it's possible to start a business website using the
> > amiga? If it is, how about a tutorial, Ben?
> > I'd like people to be able to click on items that go in a=20
> basket, then
> > they pay by credit card. As far as I've found out so far,=20
> it looks as
> > though I'd have to have a PC with =A3200 of software at the =
cheapest.
> > Any ideas anyone?
>=20
> Simple Solution: Learn Perl, it's free. Find a webserver=20
> which allows you
> to use perl, then create a shopping basket script, and I'm pretty =
sure
> you can get credit card validation perl scripts from various=20
> script archives
> around the net. Being able to use people's credit card=20
> details is a different
> matter of course.

The credit-card check's easy, and it can even be done (with ease) in
Javascript. It's just a Base-10 check. However actually validating the =
cards
requires access to the "NETCARD" merchant banking system, and that =
costs a
fair bit.
--=20
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk


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From:  "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 3 Mar 2000 08:33:56 +0000
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On Thu, 02 Mar 2000 16:16:25 +0100, Matthew O'Neill ([e-mail]) wrote:
> On 02-Mar-00, Ben Vost wrote:
>
> >>> T'other way around mate. 127 is the highest priority, 0 is normal, -127
> >>> is the lowest.
>
> >> Why don't you read other people's replies before posting you're own, Ben?
> >> I mean, come on, I beat you to it by 37 seconds ...
>
> Something uses priorities the other way round?..... is it the boot sequence?

Nah, I think it's CX_Priorities ...

Kev

--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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From: Stephen <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:05:29 +1000
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Does anybody know how to make the alarms in Organiser (V1.1) activate
automatically on startup? I keep getting the requester asking if I want to
activate them and it's getting annoying.

Stephen

--
http://www.iweb.net.au/~amiganut/default.htm



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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 00:42:38 -0800
From: "Paul Laycock" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Mash,

> I know there'll be a lot to say. I'm getting a ppc and bvision in a
couple
> of days and I want to know what I should and shouldn't instal, and in
which
> order

PowerUp, WarpUp, CGFX 4.2, Warp3D.

> Also whats the best versions of file viewers? jpg, mpg, mov,avi, mp3
etc.
> Any essential hacks for the ppc like fblit for AGA? Oh and overall
which is
> the best quake port ? =)

I don't know what FBlit would do with regards to a gfx card, but
QuakeWOS is the best Quake port I have used.

Paul Laycock



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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:42:17 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew O'Neill [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 02 March 2000 14:59
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: Matt's Clinic & WOA2000 was TweakWB, WBCtrl, FBlit
>
> > You mean that you will be wearing a "I'm Matt Sealey" T-shirt?
> > Cool - I want one just to confuse people :)
>
> How many people will pick up the Monty Python link here?
>
> > Seriously Matt - you have a skill/knack that the rest of us
> could use -
>
> Pissing people off more than me? =)
>
> Mash - I'm Matt!

"Matt Sealey of AFB? Who'se Matt Sealey?"
"I am centurion"
"No, I'm Matt Sealey!"
"No, I'm Matt Sealey!"
"No, I'm Matt Sealey!"
"No, I'm Matt Sealey!"
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk
_NOT_ Matt Sealey.


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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 00:51:45 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Stephen,

> > Yes, that sounds rather strange; since I have sucessfully used 512Kb
> > ROM images and 1Mb ROM images (2).  I took them from my Mac IIci
> > (512Kb) and my Quadra 650 and 950. (1Mb)

What Mac did the ROM come from, it's meg one so what LC, Quadra, Centis
model?

> > I cannot see why a patch is needed...  Please tell us more! :)
> >
> >
> Found the patch on my hardrive after all!  It may only be needed on
phase5
> systems, I'm not sure.  If you want the archive, mail me privately.
>
> Here is the doc file from it:

Okay I've snipped it all; but from what I guess; try using the very
latest Rsrvxxxx programs on the AFCD; they're in a seperate drawer and
newer than the ones that Fusion installs.

You may want to try fiddling with the switches, i personally use:

RsrvWarm -f

Which sticks the patch in fast memory instead of Chip mem.  Without
knowing where the ROM came from as yet; I'm afraid I cannot help much
more. :)

All the best,

Nick.



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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 00:55:08 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>
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Hi Sandy,

> > I agree, that is complete utter crap (sorry), DPaint is great, yes,
I
> > have DPaint II, III and IV.V :) (4.5) and PPaint is still used more,
> > okay so because DPaint doesn't like my Pixel 64, but PPaint is a
modern
> > bitmap painting package that is unrivalled.
>
> I think the only part where DPaint wins over PPaint is the anim
facilites.
> IMO the move requestor is v powerful.

Oh yes, I forgot all about that!  Oh those were the days with your new
A500+, with a whole meg of memory, squeezing about 30 frames of
animation in using the wonderfully fun move requester.

However; at the heart of it; all it did was do some simple resizing and
rotation; so simple yet no other package has done the same, yet! :)

All the best,

Nick.



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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:06:17 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail :-(
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jani =3D??Q?M=3DE4kitalo?=3D =
[mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 02 March 2000 18:35
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail :-(
>=20
> > you don't see what you're doing. Somehow, I don't know why, I feel
> > like I have to be in charge of what code is generated.
>=20
> Seriously, I like to write HTML by hand because I have seen=20
> how horrible
> code those programs can generate. Using non-breaking spaces=20
> for picture
> alignment (which is inaccurate anyway) and leave behind long=20
> strings of
> nested commands (like <B></B>) that do absolutely nothing. If=20
> you do it
> by hand, the code will be accurate, short, does *exactly*=20
> what you want
> it to do, nothing more. Short code =3D faster download =3D happy =
surfers
> that bookmark your page.
>=20
> Only after I am proven those programs churn out compact code with no
> excessive and unnecessary additions, and use rational layout=20
> methods, I
> will leave the task to the computer.
>=20
> It might even be reality when they finally develope those learning
> neural network things that first watch me work, then emulate my
> actions. :)

Saw (And played with) Dreamweaver 3 yesterday... Very nice. And as you =
make
changes in the source, it shows straight away in the =
WYSIWYSRGAIDAWLT=A9
window. (What You See Is What You Should Get Although It Doesn't Always =
Work
Like That).
--=20
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk


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From: "Sealey, M." <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:09:54 -0000
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> > Right, go to http://www.tpec.u-net.com and get FBlit 3.56e because
> > you'll need it for this. Note down your FBlit settings, and delete the
> > ENVARC:FBlit.cfg file before installing it. Get the newest WBCtrl as
> > well.
> >
> > et voila! If you're having lots of trouble, just give me a poke and
> > I'll see if I can help. For I am the FBlit Master!!!
>
> O.K, that worked lovely.  Thanks very mucg for solving my problem.
>
> Next question (you are the FBlit master ;) ), do the following...

Okay.. how to work around it. It's because the AddBob#? and
RemBob#? patches in FBlit erroneously reserve loads of chip ram
to do their tricks: and Workbench triggers it by doing an AddBob
on every icon in preparation for you dragging it. So apart from
the size of the icon (3k each?) you also lose about 600k of CHIP
for the privilege of calling the damned thing.

> How do I get back that missing bit?

Go into FBlit 3.56e's control panel and turn the Bob patches
off, and leave QBSBlitPatch on. Set "WBCtrl IMT=ICONFAST"

*OR* turn QBSBlitPatch *OFF* and leave the Bob patches ON,
but turn SIMPLEGELS *ON* for LoadWB.

You *WILL* need FBlit 3.56e for this, or if you're smarmy like
me then you could be using 3.59 ;)

--
Matt Sealey [e-mail]
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester


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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 02:08:40 -0800
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I know that I should actually have asked on the official mailing list,
but the last time I joined it was full of messages from UAE owners
asking why AmigaAMP was so slow on their "Amiga". Does anyone know how
the internal crossfader works in AmigaAMP?



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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 02:44:01 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Matthew,

> > Someone needs to look up the word "icon" and the word "metaphor"
>
> Dont get all stuck up with me, I simply asked a question. And what
about new
> computer users? They're looking for a save button, but if they've
never
> owned a computer before, they'll not have seen a floppy and have no
chance
> in hell of getting the link between saving and a picture of an
obsolete
> piece of hardware will they?

Fair dos, but what else is there to represent the saving function in a
program?  Drawing a hard disk imo is both ugly (aesthetical bugbear)
and also un-intuitive, or equally so than the floppy diskette since the
user may wish to save to floppy, zip, syquest, hell even tape! :)
(Well within reason!)  The problem is that representing the save icon
in a program is a difficult one if you don't wish to use floppy disks
as the icon.

It so happens that the floppy disk is almost a universal representation
of this function; and is easily recognised by most.  And if the
begginner still doesn't know; there's always the File/Project menus and
the tool tips, on most modern progs that will inform you what the
function is.

Unfortunately floppy disks are indeed antiquated and out-of-date but
seriously there is not a major cheap alternative.  Not everyone has a
Zip drive, and there is no equivilent =A315 fast storage medium.  Even a
concept which increased capacity to just 40Mb would be excellent...

Until then, the floppy disk will be with us for some time.  :( Plus
it's the only easy way to swap files with PCs and Macs (so long as you
have a HD disk drive to do anything useful!) currently, without using
e-mails... :)

All the best,

Nick.



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From: "Sealey, M." <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:48:35 -0000
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> Hi Matthew,
>
> > > Someone needs to look up the word "icon" and the word "metaphor"
> >
> > Dont get all stuck up with me, I simply asked a question. And what
> > about new computer users? They're looking for a save button, but if
> > they've never owned a computer before, they'll not have seen a floppy
> > and have no chance in hell of getting the link between saving and a
> > picture of an obsolete piece of hardware will they?

Funny, that floppy disk looks JUST like a Zip, Jaz, LS120, or EZ135 disk
from a distance. No doubt the iMac owner will have SOME kind of
removable media. And if they don't, and they're dumb enough NOT to
know what a floppy looks like (I find that hard to beleive, you see disks
on TV every day) then there's always Help, Tooltips, the menus, the text
NEXT to the icon that says "Save As.."

> Until then, the floppy disk will be with us for some time.  :( Plus
> it's the only easy way to swap files with PCs and Macs (so long as you
> have a HD disk drive to do anything useful!) currently, without using
> e-mails... :)

And the LS120 drive has prolonged it's life somewhat..

--
Matt Sealey [e-mail]
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester


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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 02:55:47 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Matt,

> > > > Someone needs to look up the word "icon" and the word "metaphor"
> > >
> > > Dont get all stuck up with me, I simply asked a question. And what
> > > about new computer users? They're looking for a save button, but
if
> > > they've never owned a computer before, they'll not have seen a
floppy
> > > and have no chance in hell of getting the link between saving and
a
> > > picture of an obsolete piece of hardware will they?
>
> Funny, that floppy disk looks JUST like a Zip, Jaz, LS120, or EZ135
disk
> from a distance. No doubt the iMac owner will have SOME kind of
> removable media. And if they don't, and they're dumb enough NOT to
> know what a floppy looks like (I find that hard to beleive, you see
disks
> on TV every day) then there's always Help, Tooltips, the menus, the
text
> NEXT to the icon that says "Save As.."

Agreed!  A Zip disk, or any recent removable media is pretty much
identicle in looks to a floppy disk.  And I can't honestly believe that
there is anyone out there looking for a computer who doesn't know what
a floppy disk looks like!!
Perhaps my Gran, but she's hardly looking for a computer! :)

> > Until then, the floppy disk will be with us for some time.  :( Plus
> > it's the only easy way to swap files with PCs and Macs (so long as
you
> > have a HD disk drive to do anything useful!) currently, without
using
> > e-mails... :)
>
> And the LS120 drive has prolonged it's life somewhat..

Which is kind of annoying.  In one way it's good because it gives
backwards compatibility with the older floppy disk; and bad in that it
gives backwards compatibility!! IMO the only way we can get rid of the
old 3.5" floppy disk is to create a cheap alternative.  Till then; the
LS120 is the closest we have got.

All the best,

Nick.



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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 03:01:09 -0800
From: "eGroups.com Poll Results" <[e-mail]>
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Here are the results of the vote:

1. 8" Drive (I think nobody has!) :-)            1
2. Two High Density (Power and Micronik)            1
3. Double Density (Chinnon/External etc.)            21
4. High Density (Chinnon/Power/Catweasel)            27




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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 03:01:15 -0800
From: "eGroups.com Poll Results" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Voting Results: Another Floppy Drive Poll, Mk. II :)
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Here are the results of the vote:

1. Never now.            2
2. All the time            7
3. Once in a while            7
4. Occasionally            11
5. Rarely            12
6. Sometimes            16




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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 03:06:33 -0800
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Subject: [afb] POLL: Free UK Internet
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03.03.00
Ok, so I`m curious as to how long people think it will take for the UK phone companies to get their act together and give us permanent Free connection...

----

Please select one of the following:

   o Under a Year
   o One to two years
   o Three to four years
   o Five to ten years
   o Never!
   o Who cares - I have cable!
   o Why bother - I like paying through the nose....
   o Nothing in life is free...


by going to the following Web form:

   http://www.egroups.com/vote?id=952081593258&listname=afb

Thank you!



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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 03:09:04 -0800
From: "Samuel Byford" <[e-mail]>
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Freedom!

They may take our lives, but they will never take our - Freedom!

(Or something like that)

Any way.  Im trying to guage peoples thought on the time scale employed
before we get Free local calls here in the jolly old UK.

You know where to go folks.

Charge!


Bifford the Youngest




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From: "Sealey, M." <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:15:05 -0000
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Don't be stupid, free modem-based internet is a dumb idea. By the time =
the
technology is in to support it, we'll have all moved to ADSL, which =
will
have
gotten cheap enough for most people.

I spend about =A3140 a quarter on internet calls (after BT Together/F&F =
etc.),

and as it stands, ADSL access looks to be roughly =A350 a month for =
unlimited
access, and a 512Kbit downstream (I think they say 64Kbit upstream).

Well blow me if I don't get a connection 12 times faster, infinitely =
more
reliable, and leave-connected-all-day-able for roughly the same =
price!!!

When it drops to =A330, or if they offer a slower service (256Kbit?) =
it'll be
great. And your phone bill will drop to 0 because you'll be using =
webphones
:)

--=20
Matt Sealey [e-mail]=20
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester


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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:23:53 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sealey, M. [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 03 March 2000 11:15
> To: '[e-mail]'
> Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: Free UK Internet
>=20
> Don't be stupid, free modem-based internet is a dumb idea. By=20
> the time the
> technology is in to support it, we'll have all moved to ADSL,=20
> which will
> have
> gotten cheap enough for most people.
>=20
> I spend about =A3140 a quarter on internet calls (after BT=20
> Together/F&F etc.),
>=20
> and as it stands, ADSL access looks to be roughly =A350 a month=20
> for unlimited
> access, and a 512Kbit downstream (I think they say 64Kbit upstream).

That's what it was during the Trial, but they've downgraded it (256K =
down,
64K up)
And they've announced the pricing @ =A370 per month for the ISP's. =
They've
then got to put their profit margin on it.

Not looking so Rosy now, is it?

for more info, go to http://www.unmetered.org.uk
--=20
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk


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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 12:52:26 +0100
From: Tudor Davies <[e-mail]>
References: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B2BA9F2C@THE_EXCHANGE>
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On Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 11:23:53AM -0000, Robert Johnston wrote:

> That's what it was during the Trial, but they've downgraded it (256K down,
> 64K up)
> And they've announced the pricing @ 70 per month for the ISP's. They've
> then got to put their profit margin on it.
> Not looking so Rosy now, is it?

Yes but that is BTs pricing structure which will stand until the local loop
gets unbundled - s/b 2001.

We already have a californian company wanting to do it - free access but
monthly subscription - just like the US.
UUNet are starting trials - with BT and without BT.

UUNet are the people to watch - they are part of the one of the largest ISP
conglomerations around the world and when they want something they get it.
They have invested massively in datacomms infrastructure (as opposed to
renting it from BT) ('cos they buy it from Lucent), and are desperate to get
the UK/Europe inline with their US plans - ADSL for everyone on monthly
charges - it works and it works well.

Even if BT charge 70 for 256k/64K - that's still a hell of a lot faster and
cheaper than current incl. ISDN!!

l8r
--

Tudor Davies                         Running Amiga, Mac, PC & Unices
                                     Technology in Perfect Harmony
Team Member of AmiBench
Web: http://www.AmiBench.org         Specialist in Internet Security & ISP
Email: [e-mail]               Support (RADIUS, Firewalls & Routing)
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Date: 3 Mar 2000 11:45:27 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
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Jani Mkitalo said,

> while the JS-article on AF134 was very enlightening, I need some more
> info...

> How do I replace the current frame with a specific HTML file? I would
> think

>   onLoad="if (top == self) top.location.replace(INDEX.HTM); return true;"

> would work, but I am getting a "Document not found" error. Should I be
> using the full URL instead (thus making it impossible to test the code
> offline)?

The URL must be quoted ('index.htm'), it's a string literal. Without the
quotes JavaScript will be lloking for the HTML property of the object
INDEX.

> Also, the said INDEX.HTM contains nothing but a frameset. I would like
> to show the originating page in one of the frames, but can I pass
> information like this through JavaScript? For example, in the form of a
> variable? Can I pass ANY variables between pages, for that matter?

Have your script load the new document, and then replace the contents of
that frame with the current URL. Something like:

    top.location.replace('index.html');
    top.mainframe.location.replace(location.href);


Neil
--
Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
--
"I'm Not Sure If I'm Homosexual", Said Tom, Half In Earnest.



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 12:21:36 +0000
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Hi Will,

>>> I seriously doubt that the majority of people are interested in
>>> "practical electronics projects".
>>
>> That much was demonstrated by CU...

> I would have built the Yamaha sound project if the Yamaha hardware
> hadn`t been so pricey. The infra red controller made interesting
> reading but wasn`t particularly practical. One of the things I bought

Not practical? Surely it was one of the most practical hardware hacks going,
or are you Amiga and IR-responding equipment that far apart> (I know they
are for me).

> CU for was its bias towards hardware hacks, from the editorial in the
> last issue this had nothing to do with its close which came from high
> command.

It *wasn't* anything to do with their closure, but it didn't add to copy
sales in the way they'd hoped.

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Family Fortunes answers:  Q. Name a jacket potato topping
                          A. Jam




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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 12:34:00 +0000
In-Reply-To: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B2BA9F27@THE_EXCHANGE>
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Hi Robert,

> Saw (And played with) Dreamweaver 3 yesterday... Very nice. And as you
> make changes in the source, it shows straight away in the
> WYSIWYSRGAIDAWLT=A9 window. (What You See Is What You Should Get Althou=
gh It
> Doesn't Always Work Like That).

I have to admit that I've been playing with Adobe's Image Ready 2 lately.=

It's fantastic - I'd give my right arm for something with this
functionality on my Amiga. It does crash a lot which is irritating in the=

extreme, but other than putting in a load of </XX> tags which aren't alwa=
ys
necessary it makes quite clean code and is superb for imagemaps and
rollovers.

All the best,
-- =

Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Save as much as 44% when you subscribe to AF! Ring: 01458 271102
right now to save...




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From: George Davis <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 12:37:09 +0000
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Subject: [afb] PowerUp emulation trouble -solved
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Hello.
I worked out why the PPClibEmu wasn't working for me.It seems that puttin=
g the new
ppc.library in Libs: wasn't enough,as it wasn't being loaded.
So I put LoadLib in the Startup-Sequence : 'C:LoadLib LIBS:ppc.library'
Now it works fine! Yeah!:D

Can't run MamePPC anymore though :(
-- =

<sb>Geo=



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 12:44:27 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Hi jeremy (only I think it was Dan Thornton or Bifford that originally wrote
this),

> On 03-Mar-00, you wrote:
> . Is it worth paying to remove them again?

With the number of people on here it works out to about 4p each. I can live
with that cost. I can even live with paying a pound for the removal of ads
that really have nothing to do with us...

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
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and emotional reward. It's a shame you won't be there to see it.




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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 20:21:30 +0100
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On 02-Mar-00, Daniel Thornton wrote:

> Personally, I never noticed that this group doesn't have advertising;
> all of the other eGroups/Onelist lists I'm on have ads, and they're
> not particularly intrusive. Is it worth paying to remove them again?

If we pay to remove the ads, why is egroups advertised at the bottom of
every mail? another couple of lines wouldn't make a difference, I say let
the ads come, if they get too annoying, you could slap a flat cap and
scruffy dog on the af stall for donations ;)

Mash -
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

Sexist??!! No! I'm just a huperbiped..







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 20:33:36 +0100
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On 02-Mar-00, Ben Vost wrote:

>>> *Quiz tag:* continue this sequence 1, 11, 21, 1211, 111221, 312211, ?

>> 13112221, I think.

> Bingo! Here have a black star (haven't got any gold ones) - *

Go on then, whats the formula?

Mash -
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Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

URA Redneck if your wife has a beer belly and you find it attractive.







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 20:22:56 +0100
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On 02-Mar-00, Will wrote:

> Maplins even charge for their catalogue - the hobby is so popular.

> Quite a few of these people probably own unused Amigas.

Its a pity they dont sell 2.5" IDE connectors :/

Mash -
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Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

28 Millionaire US Senators: 21 Democrats, 7 Republicans. Tax the rich?







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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 05:00:05 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Ben,

> With the number of people on here it works out to about 4p each. I
can live
> with that cost. I can even live with paying a pound for the removal
of ads
> that really have nothing to do with us...

All of =A31 eh! :)  In fact, all of 4p! :))  Hee Hee, if you want the ads
removed, and you need some cash; let me know where to send a couple of
quid... :)  And this time, maybe everyone can donate! :)  Of course the
overflow could be donated to a worthy charity like me :), Amiga Inc.
:)) or seriously a good cause which matters, anyone got ideas who we
could donate to?  With about 900 subscribers, that's =A3900 if we all
paid a =A31; minus the ads removal cost, then it'll be christmas all over
again for at least a charity! :)

However, you'll probably end up with only =A330..

I'm all for it, what about the RSPCA.. :)

All the best,

Nick.
I may be a student but when it comes to helping.... :)



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From: "Sealey, M." <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:00:17 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
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> > Maplins even charge for their catalogue - the hobby is so popular.
>
> > Quite a few of these people probably own unused Amigas.
>
> Its a pity they dont sell 2.5" IDE connectors :/

They do.. I bought one not long back for a laptop..

--
Matt Sealey [e-mail]
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 13:00:03 +0000
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Hi Matthew,

>>>> *Quiz tag:* continue this sequence 1, 11, 21, 1211, 111221, 312211, ?

>>> 13112221, I think.

> Go on then, whats the formula?

Read each number out loud to yourself, you'll soon work it out...

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
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From: "Sealey, M." <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:01:48 -0000
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> Hi Ben,
>=20
> > With the number of people on here it works out to about 4p each. I
> > can live with that cost. I can even live with paying a pound for =
the
> > removal of ads that really have nothing to do with us...
>=20
> All of =A31 eh! :)  In fact, all of 4p! :))  Hee Hee, if you want the =
ads
> removed, and you need some cash; let me know where to send a couple =
of
> quid... :)  And this time, maybe everyone can donate! :)

Hmm.. if only I could pay by VISA :)

> However, you'll probably end up with only =A330..

Hmm.. if only I could pay by VISA :)
=20
> I'm all for it, what about the RSPCA.. :)

The PDSA or the CPL gets my vote..

--=20
Matt Sealey [e-mail]=20
Distributed Systems Support
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University of Leicester


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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 05:04:33 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi,

> > > Maplins even charge for their catalogue - the hobby is so popular.
> >
> > > Quite a few of these people probably own unused Amigas.
> >
> > Its a pity they dont sell 2.5" IDE connectors :/
>
> They do.. I bought one not long back for a laptop..

I know someone who did likewise, albeit a little while ago.  Otherwise
give Farnell a ring, or request a set of catalogues from there web
pages, I did, what i didn't realise was that I would have an instant
library on my doorstep :)  Well, the bloke from Parcel Force gave it to
me at least... :)

Oh and Farnell have some lovely 100MHz Crystal Oscillators and some
super duper fans and heatsinks quoted as ideal for Motorola 68040-
might be worth a go! :))

All the best,

Nick.



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 13:05:15 +0000
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Hi Nick,

>> With the number of people on here it works out to about 4p each. I
>> can live with that cost. I can even live with paying a pound for the
>> removal of ads that really have nothing to do with us...

> All of =A31 eh! :)  In fact, all of 4p! :))  Hee Hee, if you want the a=
ds
> removed, and you need some cash; let me know where to send a couple of
> quid... :)  And this time, maybe everyone can donate! :)  Of course the=

> overflow could be donated to a worthy charity like me :), Amiga Inc.
> :)) or seriously a good cause which matters, anyone got ideas who we
> could donate to?  With about 900 subscribers, that's =A3900 if we all
> paid a =A31; minus the ads removal cost, then it'll be christmas all ov=
er
> again for at least a charity! :)

> However, you'll probably end up with only =A330..

Last year, with only 400 members (I think) we managed to get about fifty.=
 I
donated what was left over and made it up to =A350 to Imperial Cancer at =
Rob
M's suggestion (I think). Part of that money was donated in huge chunks b=
y
the likes of Richard Lane and we also got a 100BEF from... umm, can't
remember, but it's still sitting in my drawer.

I'd like to think we could raise double that original =A350 this year.

All the best,
-- =

Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Lamburn [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 03 March 2000 13:05
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: type of mag?
>
> I know someone who did likewise, albeit a little while ago.  Otherwise
> give Farnell a ring, or request a set of catalogues from there web
> pages, I did, what i didn't realise was that I would have an instant
> library on my doorstep :)  Well, the bloke from Parcel Force
> gave it to
> me at least... :)

What's the cost?

> Oh and Farnell have some lovely 100MHz Crystal Oscillators and some
> super duper fans and heatsinks quoted as ideal for Motorola 68040-
> might be worth a go! :))

Wooohooo! What's the cost?!?!?! :)
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 05:08:54 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Matt,

> > > With the number of people on here it works out to about 4p each. I
> > > can live with that cost. I can even live with paying a pound for
the
> > > removal of ads that really have nothing to do with us...
> >
> > All of =A31 eh! :)  In fact, all of 4p! :))  Hee Hee, if you want the
ads
> > removed, and you need some cash; let me know where to send a couple
of
> > quid... :)  And this time, maybe everyone can donate! :)
>
> Hmm.. if only I could pay by VISA :)

No credit card =3D no good for me! :)  Cash and cheques though... :)

> > However, you'll probably end up with only =A330..
>
> Hmm.. if only I could pay by VISA :)

Ditto. :)

> > I'm all for it, what about the RSPCA.. :)
>
> The PDSA or the CPL gets my vote..

Let me guess.... :)

CPL - Cats Protection League, right and the PDSA, hmmm Portable
Dumpling Suet Association.  Hmmm perhaps not, what's the PDSA Matt?  I
honestly don't mind where the cash would be donated; just so long as
it's a worthy cause, these two seem that.

All the best,

Nick.



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From: "Sealey, M." <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:12:28 -0000
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> > > I'm all for it, what about the RSPCA.. :)
> >
> > The PDSA or the CPL gets my vote..
>
> Let me guess.... :)
>
> CPL - Cats Protection League, right and the PDSA, hmmm Portable
> Dumpling Suet Association.  Hmmm perhaps not, what's the PDSA Matt?  I
> honestly don't mind where the cash would be donated; just so long as
> it's a worthy cause, these two seem that.

People's Dispensary for Sick Animals. It's Animal Hospital, but without
Rolf Harris. A lot more deserving than the RSPCA, as it deals with sick
ickle animals what get hit by cars and fings, instead of daft "homeless"
puppies and rescuing snakes from sewers.

--
Matt Sealey [e-mail]
Distributed Systems Support
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University of Leicester


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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 05:13:03 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Ben,

> > However, you'll probably end up with only =A330..
>
> Last year, with only 400 members (I think) we managed to get about
fifty. I
> donated what was left over and made it up to =A350 to Imperial Cancer
at Rob
> M's suggestion (I think). Part of that money was donated in huge
chunks by
> the likes of Richard Lane and we also got a 100BEF from... umm, can't
> remember, but it's still sitting in my drawer.

I reckon it's a great idea for us to donate money to a wortyhy cause;
and we could get one of those heeeerrrrruge :) cheques from the banks
which could have the money, signed by 'Amiga Format' :)  Hee Hee.
Seriously, I reckon it's a really nice idea, and something I would
support greatly.  Usual address Ben? :)

> I'd like to think we could raise double that original =A350 this year.

I'd like to think that 200 out of the 900 could donate at least =A31 each
for a total of =A3200 minus the ad removal costs, it'd be great!

All the best,

Nick.



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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 05:11:34 -0800
From: "David McMinn" <[e-mail]>
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> > give Farnell a ring, or request a set of catalogues from there web
> > pages, I did, what i didn't realise was that I would have an instant
> > library on my doorstep :)  Well, the bloke from Parcel Force
> > gave it to
> > me at least... :)
>
> What's the cost?

Farnell usually only deal with companies, not individuals.

RS deal with individuals and companies, although you have to pay
delivery costs if you are not a company.





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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 13:17:13 +0000
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Hi Nick,

> I reckon it's a great idea for us to donate money to a wortyhy cause;
> and we could get one of those heeeerrrrruge :) cheques from the banks
> which could have the money, signed by 'Amiga Format' :)  Hee Hee. =

> Seriously, I reckon it's a really nice idea, and something I would
> support greatly.  Usual address Ben? :)

It'd be a cheque signed by me (if it's like last year) on behalf of afb
members all over the world. My personal choice for a charity would be
Mozambique right now - some of those folk have never even seen a
helicopter, so I don't think many are AF subscriber, but since their
government is doing nothing to help its own people, perhaps we should...
 =

>> I'd like to think we could raise double that original =A350 this year.=


> I'd like to think that 200 out of the 900 could donate at least =A31 ea=
ch
> for a total of =A3200 minus the ad removal costs, it'd be great!

It would, wouldn't it...

All the best,
-- =

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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 05:18:57 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Robert,

> > I know someone who did likewise, albeit a little while ago.
Otherwise
> > give Farnell a ring, or request a set of catalogues from there web
> > pages, I did, what i didn't realise was that I would have an instant
> > library on my doorstep :)  Well, the bloke from Parcel Force
> > gave it to
> > me at least... :)
>
> What's the cost?

This is the best bit, c'est gratuit! :)  FREE! :)  Delivered in about a
week and you have an instant library to impress visitors... :)
>
> > Oh and Farnell have some lovely 100MHz Crystal Oscillators and some
> > super duper fans and heatsinks quoted as ideal for Motorola 68040-
> > might be worth a go! :))
>
> Wooohooo! What's the cost?!?!?! :)

Well, not cheap admitedly, though most 40MHz 68040s (true XC68040RC40)
can indeed cope at 50MHz with the right cooling precautions.  With a
stonking great big heatsink and fan; you're away! :)

Okay, the oscillator is 100MHz (if you have a WarpEngine you can get a
cheaper 50MHz clock because the clock rate is not split), that's what
is needed on my 040/40 Apollo for A1200T, since the clock rate is
double.  The price, urrrm, =A316. :)  Free next day delivery...  After
all it's not every day you find a stockist of these osscillators at
this speed! :)  Also there are 125MHz ones, anyone wanting to cook a
68040 at 62.5MHz? :)

Ahh well; if it works reliably, it should tide me over till i get a
G3/300... :)

All the best,

Nick.



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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 05:21:31 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Matt,

> > CPL - Cats Protection League, right and the PDSA, hmmm Portable
> > Dumpling Suet Association.  Hmmm perhaps not, what's the PDSA Matt?
 I
> > honestly don't mind where the cash would be donated; just so long as
> > it's a worthy cause, these two seem that.
>
> People's Dispensary for Sick Animals. It's Animal Hospital, but
without
> Rolf Harris. A lot more deserving than the RSPCA, as it deals with
sick
> ickle animals what get hit by cars and fings, instead of daft
"homeless"
> puppies and rescuing snakes from sewers.

Oooh, I haven't heard of it I admit.  Sounds worthy though; we gave to
a humanitarian cause last year so what about a, ummm, animal-ian :)
cause this year?

All the best,

Nick.



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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Lamburn [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 03 March 2000 13:19
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: type of mag?
>
> Hi Robert,
>
> This is the best bit, c'est gratuit! :)  FREE! :)  Delivered
> in about a
> week and you have an instant library to impress visitors... :)
> >
> > > Oh and Farnell have some lovely 100MHz Crystal
> Oscillators and some
> > > super duper fans and heatsinks quoted as ideal for Motorola 68040-
> > > might be worth a go! :))
> >
> > Wooohooo! What's the cost?!?!?! :)
>
> Well, not cheap admitedly, though most 40MHz 68040s (true XC68040RC40)
> can indeed cope at 50MHz with the right cooling precautions.  With a
> stonking great big heatsink and fan; you're away! :)

<WORRIED CAUSE="David McMinn's post"> You sure? </WORRIED>
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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 05:27:44 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Ben,

> > I reckon it's a great idea for us to donate money to a wortyhy
cause;
> > and we could get one of those heeeerrrrruge :) cheques from the
banks
> > which could have the money, signed by 'Amiga Format' :)  Hee Hee.
> > Seriously, I reckon it's a really nice idea, and something I would
> > support greatly.  Usual address Ben? :)
>
> It'd be a cheque signed by me (if it's like last year) on behalf of
afb
> members all over the world. My personal choice for a charity would be
> Mozambique right now - some of those folk have never even seen a
> helicopter, so I don't think many are AF subscriber, but since their
> government is doing nothing to help its own people, perhaps we
should...

I couldn't agree more actually, i know it's only a little (in
comparison to what is called for), but it would be so great to help
these people who are unfortunate enough to be caught up in a natural
catastophe like this.  Giving these people some hope is the least WE
can do.  I may moan about how things are sometimes for me; but when I
see people like those in Mozambique, it makes me realise how much I
take for granted.  I think this is a great idea.

> >> I'd like to think we could raise double that original =A350 this
year.
>
> > I'd like to think that 200 out of the 900 could donate at least =A31
each
> > for a total of =A3200 minus the ad removal costs, it'd be great!
>
> It would, wouldn't it...

In an ideal world yes, so come on afb members, do the right thing, do
the good thing and donate just a measly =A31 or more if you have large
pockets :) and help these people who need it, well if that's who we
decide to donate to, I'm sure the aid agencies would be extremely
grateful.  Seriously, Ben where do you want me to send the money?  afb
Charity Appeal, Amiga Format, 30 Monmouth Street, Bath, Somerset. BA1
2BW?   I'll pop it in the post tonight if poss or Monday, let me know,
I want to help! :)

All the best,

Nick.



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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 05:30:30 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi,

> <WORRIED CAUSE="David McMinn's post"> You sure? </WORRIED>

Well if a 16 year old student, aka Me :) can get a set of catalogues
sent to him, then I think you can.  At least when I order I could use
my dad's motor mechanic business name if need be! :)  But it worked
this time...  And I have ordered said crystal this morning with no
probs..

All the best,

Nick.



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 13:30:39 +0000
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Hi Nick,

> In an ideal world yes, so come on afb members, do the right thing, do
> the good thing and donate just a measly =A31 or more if you have large
> pockets :) and help these people who need it, well if that's who we
> decide to donate to, I'm sure the aid agencies would be extremely
> grateful.  Seriously, Ben where do you want me to send the money?  afb
> Charity Appeal, Amiga Format, 30 Monmouth Street, Bath, Somerset. BA1
> 2BW?   I'll pop it in the post tonight if poss or Monday, let me know,
> I want to help! :)

That's fine. Thanks Nick.

All the best,
-- =

Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 05:33:35 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Ben,

> > In an ideal world yes, so come on afb members, do the right thing,
do
> > the good thing and donate just a measly =A31 or more if you have large
> > pockets :) and help these people who need it, well if that's who we
> > decide to donate to, I'm sure the aid agencies would be extremely
> > grateful.  Seriously, Ben where do you want me to send the money?
afb
> > Charity Appeal, Amiga Format, 30 Monmouth Street, Bath, Somerset.
BA1
> > 2BW?   I'll pop it in the post tonight if poss or Monday, let me
know,
> > I want to help! :)
>
> That's fine. Thanks Nick.

I like to help where I can, and this is where I can help.

All the best,

Nick.



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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:33:54 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Lamburn [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 03 March 2000 13:31
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: type of mag?
>
> > <WORRIED CAUSE="David McMinn's post"> You sure? </WORRIED>
>
> Well if a 16 year old student, aka Me :) can get a set of catalogues
> sent to him, then I think you can.  At least when I order I could use
> my dad's motor mechanic business name if need be! :)  But it worked
> this time...  And I have ordered said crystal this morning with no
> probs..

One order in the name of "Enigma Systems (A Division of NetWorking UK)"
Coming right up! :))

Yes, in case you're wondering, It's my company name... TBH, I don't know
anyone who doesn't have one. :)
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:35:51 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Lamburn [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 03 March 2000 13:34
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: AFB Adverts - Whats the cost/subber?
>
> > > AFB Charity Appeal, Amiga Format, 30 Monmouth Street, Bath,
> > > Somerset. BA1 2BW?
> > > I'll pop it in the post tonight if poss or Monday, let me know,
> > > I want to help! :)
> >
> > That's fine. Thanks Nick.
>
> I like to help where I can, and this is where I can help.

I've noted down the address (It looks hauntingly familiar), and a Cheque (Or
would cash be better?) Will be in the post tonite.
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk


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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 13:38:15 +0000
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Hi Robert,

> I've noted down the address (It looks hauntingly familiar), and a Cheque
> (Or would cash be better?) Will be in the post tonite.

Cash would be better since I'll be paying eGroups and the chairty by card or
cheque and having cash means I can either use it as petty cash, or pay it
into my account.

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Q: What do you call a man with a number plate stuck to his forehead?
A: Reg




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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 05:38:54 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Robert,

> One order in the name of "Enigma Systems (A Division of NetWorking
UK)"
> Coming right up! :))

:))

> Yes, in case you're wondering, It's my company name... TBH, I don't
know
> anyone who doesn't have one. :)

Well I have one too 'Omega Research UK', formerly 'Omega Software',
which was founded in 1993.  Essentially: An Amiga sofware development
company. :)  I suppose I could go under that name! :)

All the best,

Nick.



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